Pele’s Pele’s Poetry Podcast: Episode 6 – The Wuthering Heights one

With Margot Robbie cast as Cathy in the latest iteration of Wuthering Heights, my co-host, Pele Cox, argues that without poetry Emily Brontë’s book wouldn’t have been written in the first place. So no roles for Robbie and her Heathcliff, Jacob Elordi. No Kate Bush song. No poems of the same name by Sylvia Plath or Ted Hughes.

The evidence? Well, we learn how Brontë turned to prose only after a collection of poetry she published with her sisters (under the pen names Ellis, Acton and Currer Bell) failed to sell more than a few copies. Pele also posits that a nascent Heathcliff can be found in the works of Romantic poets such as Shelley and Byron – the very material Brontë would have been reading at Haworth parsonage in the years before she penned Wuthering Heights.

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A portrait of Emily Brontë
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Ted Hughes is my go to poet if ever I find my own writing getting too flowery (which is often). His Birthday Letters, though outwardly an elegy to his first wife Sylvia Plath, is a lesson in how everyday language is all the raw material a poet needs. I read just a few lines from his Wuthering Heights on the podcast. Here’s my run at the whole poem. You’ll hear, I hope, that with the simplest of words – a limited palette if you like – Hughes paints the most beautiful picture. There’s the art.

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I say goodnight

A poem for Valentine’s Day

I say: goodnight
I love you.
You say: I love you more
See you in the morning.

But there will be a time
There will be a time
When the night is not good
And I will not see you in the morning

You (or me) mourning
The two of us halved, un-wholed.
Then only our love will hold
On amid the irresistible arithmetic of years.

So until the “until death us to do part” part
If I vow to kiss thee one more lunchtime, or breakfast, or tv dinner for two
You’ll know why I do.

Or in the last-throe afterglow of you know
Ask: are you still alive?
And hope you don’t say no.

Pele’s Pele’s Poetry Podcast: Episode 5 – The Saint Valentine’s Day one

Who first wrote roses are red, violets are blue, honey is sweet and so are you? Who were the lines written for? And when? Plus is poetry the language of love? Just some of the questions Pele Cox and I seek answers to in this special lovers’ edition. Oh and which poet would you take to bed?

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Pele writes…

Ovid was Rome’s supreme poet of love so who better to choose for this St Valentine’s Day special? The Amores, a collection of elegies addressed to a mistress named Corinna, sparkled with humour, self-mockery, and erotic candour. He followed this with the Heroides, a daring series of fictional letters written from the perspectives of mythological heroines — Penelope, Dido, Medea — giving voice to women’s desire and suffering in ways that felt revolutionary. His most notorious work, the Ars Amatoria (The Art of Love), presented itself as a tongue-in-cheek instructional manual on seduction, covering everything from where to meet lovers to how to maintain their affections. It was playful, subversive, and deeply at odds with Emperor Augustus’s moral legislation promoting traditional family values.

Rich writes…

Iamb, caesura, enjambment… there are loads of fancy words when you look under the bonnet of any poem and, just like the engine of my old Ford Capri, you don’t need to know what every part does to enjoy the thrill of the open road or read. In this episode I mention iambic pentameter and hexameter. Put simply an iamb is a unit of measure in poetry much like a centimetre or inch is a unit on a tape measure. Specifically an iamb is two syllables: the first a short one; the second longer. I am is a good example although I prefer to think of an iamb as a heartbeat ba- boom, ba-boom, ba-boom.… So pentameter is five heartbeats or iambs. And iambic hexameter is six heartbeats. I’d thoroughly recommend THE MAKING OF A POEM – A Norton Anthology of Poetic Forms by Mark Strand and Eavan Boland for its easy-to-read approach to all things iambic. Think of it as the poetic equivalent of the Haynes Workshop Manual I still have for that Capri!

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Pele’s Poetry Podcast: Episode 4 – finding your voice

What is poetic voice? Is it synonymous with style? Or something else? Perhaps the poet’s “take” on the world? Pele Cox and Rich Uridge seek answers from a range of greats including Emily Dickinson, Edna St Vincent Millay and Vernon Watkins who, with a drunken Dylan Thomas, tripped over a feather!

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Gemini Books Women in Poetry series is available to pre-order or buy here.

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Pele’s Poetry Podcast: Episode 3 – what is poetry’s purpose?

Pele Cox and I ask: what is the purpose of poetry? With the help of Elizabeth Barrett Browning, Sir Philip Sidney and Sir Thomas Wyatt, we conclude that, in part, poetry’s job is to move readers to virtuous action or “well doing and not well knowing only” as Sidney put it.     

Along the way we notice similarities between 16th century Elizabethan London and 21st century Trump’s America where to speak one’s mind risks losing one’s head – figuratively if not literally these days. But despite the risks poets, we agree, need to be rebellious.

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